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【情书】[11.10.26] 那些我们对有天的心意

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1楼2012-04-15 01:07回复
    此楼记录着我们流苏牌米粉对有天的心意,慢慢收集大家写给有天的“情书”,还有为了帮他争取权益而发表的言辞。
    如果最后可以成集,印刷出来,那就太美好了。


    2楼2012-04-15 01:11
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      第二封:2011年5月23日
      作者:流苏_倾城
      始发地:不想告别成均馆_成均馆罗曼史吧
      地址:http://tieba.baidu.com/p/932287560?pn=95
      正文:
      Hi
      Micky,
      Do you know what you should do now?
      知道你现在应该做什么吗?
      Look around, find the first f1ower you see, face it,
      take a deep breath, watch the glamour of the petal texture, and smell it----even
      it doesn’t have a smell, you’ve touched the magic of nature and got
      relaxed.
      看看周围,找到你发现的第一朵花,望着它,深呼吸,观察花瓣的纹理,然后闻一闻――――即使那是一朵没有香味的花,你会嗅到自然的魔(baidu)法,得到些微的放松。
      You
      must have been undergone a lot of pressure for the new drama recently, or maybe
      you are still overwhelmed by the circuit concerts when so many fans were zealous
      and enthusiastic for your performance. Well done!!!---- with thumb up. I
      understand you have a new round of US circuit concert show to prepare and the
      ongoing “Miss Ripley” is facing challenges from different sides. Just want to
      tell you not to push yourself too much! You are built on what you have been
      through and what you have experienced, you have accomplished and earned yourself
      a big chip. Every knock is a
      boost.
      最近,由于新剧的拍摄你一定经历了不少压力,或者,你仍旧为巡回演唱的盛况而激动不已,那些为你的表演狂热欢呼的粉丝也同样雀跃。我要竖着拇指说:“干得漂亮!”我们知道你又有新一轮的北美巡演,《雷普利小姐》的拍摄也在各方面都面临挑战,我们只想对你说,不要让自己压力太大。现在的你,是你的过去和你的经历缔造出来的,你的每一个经历都是一次激励。
      2011-10-27
      


      4楼2012-04-15 01:15
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        Yes, every knock is a boost. The efforts you have devoted in every single act,
        everybody can see and we are so happy for your being admired by more and more
        people. Trust yourself as we’ve already watched your boost in “Sungkyunkwan
        Scandal”, and there is no doubt that your efforts will be appreciated by us in
        the new trial. Don’t push yourself too much, because all we wanted to see is how
        you interpret the human nature, the story plot, the complication of the world
        and love, in your own way; all you need to do is to show us your understanding,
        and take every opportunity as a boost to make what you are.
        是的,
        你的每一个经历都是一次激励。你对每一件事所投注的努力我们都感受到了,我们也特别高兴的看到支持仰慕你的人越来越多。请相信你自己,因为在《成均馆绯闻》中我们已经看到了你的发挥,而且毫无疑问你在新剧中的用心也会被所有人体会。不要让自己压力太大,因为我们想看到的,是你如何理解人性,如何理解故事,如何用你自己的方式体会世界的复杂和爱情的纠葛,你只需要演绎出你自己的理解,利用每一次机会锻炼自我就可以了。
        Do
        you still remember what was said in “Sungkyunkwan Scandal”, that everyone is
        facing his own archery target in his own playground, that you have to shoot your
        target and decide your own destiny? I kept that in mind not only because it is a
        good line but because you make the character alive and bring vitality to the
        line. The way you express your feelings and understanding through the character
        have touched tens of thousands of audience, making them smile and think about
        their life target. So keep doing that, in a natural way, in your own way, take
        the new knock as a small boost and take it step by step. We have faith in
        you.
        还记得《成均馆绯闻》里的那句台词吗――――每个人都要在人生中面对自己的箭靶,你必须要射中目标决定自己的命运?我记得这句台词,不仅仅因为它写得好,而是因为你把角色演活了,你赋予了台词生命。你这种通过角色表达你的感情和体会的方式打动了千千万万的观众,让他们看着你的演绎微笑,通过你的表演思考自己的人生。所以请继续这样做下去,用自然的方式,用你自己的方式,把每一次机会都当作新的试炼一步步走下去。我们相信你。
        


        5楼2012-04-15 01:19
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          And please have a little healthy disregard for whatever comments might arise.
          Forget about the lousy issue, the legal dispute, and any discouraging news. Your
          fans from all over the world are building a community that is getting bigger and
          stronger, spring-board effect will be triggered because you have justice and
          support with you, and the other side, only got weakening tyranny that either
          legal or administrative instrument will be employed to deal with it. Attentions
          will be attracted from all levels of walks and classes to fight with you. So
          when you are in the centre of public voice, have a healthy disregard for
          whatever coming up, just stick with your
          faith.
          还有,请你对任何可能出现的评论都养成一点健康的“漠不关心”。请你忘记那些纷扰的琐事,忘记法律诉讼,忘记所有负面的新闻。你在全世界的粉丝正在形成一个越来越强大的团体,良性循环会带来飞跃性的效果;因为法律和越来越多的群众都在支持你,而你的对手仅仅拥有有越来越脆弱的垄断专权,迟早会面对司法和行政手段的制裁。社会各个阶层的注意力都会被吸引过来同你们一起共同作战。所以希望身处公众舆论中心的你,可以对所有出现的或将要出现的一切都漠不关心一点儿,只需要相信自己。
          The f1ower and fruit of your efforts are with you, we are with you, remember,
          even you cannot choose the best, the best chooses you. Keep the faith, and……
          keep the health!
          你的努力成果与你同在,我们与你同在,请记住,即使你不能选择最好的,最好的也会选择你!保持信念,也请保持健康!
          -------------第二封结束---------------
          


          6楼2012-04-15 01:20
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            第三封:2011年8月18日
            作者:流苏_倾城
            始发地:面具内外扭曲的人生_Goodbyemissripley
            地址:http://tieba.baidu.com/p/1096639869?pn=111
            修改版地址:http://tieba.baidu.com/p/1096639869?pn=112
            中文修改版地址:http://tieba.baidu.com/p/1180696722?pn=1
            (转发备注:这封信不是情书,也不是发给有天的,是写给首尔电视大奖组委会的申诉信,。是很多俱乐部的会员还有些目前不是会员的米饭,为了有天可以实至名归的出现在首尔国际电视大奖颁奖礼上,大家群策群力提供证据和意见,流苏撰写的中英文并多次修改出来的结果。而且,这封信是在大家连日辛苦熬夜为有天投票截止后的几天紧接着写的。大家对有天一片心意真的很令人感动。)
            英文版正文:
            Seoul International Drama Awards Organizing Committee
            Korean Broadcasters Association
            15th fl., Korean Broadcasters Center bldg.,
            932-5, Mok-dong,
            Yangchun-gu, Seoul, Korea
            Phone: +82-2-3219-5579(5587)
            Fax:
            +82-2-3219-5570
            18 August 2011
            Re: Thorough Explanation for Invalid
            Votes
            Dear Sir or Madam,
            First of all, we would like to
            express our deepest gratitude for the pertinent measures that the Organizing
            Committee have adopted in response to volumes of complaints for the problematic
            ballot during Seoul International Drama Awards (SIDA) voting process. I’m
            writing this letter on behalf of tens of thousands of overseas fans of Korea
            drama to seek a further reliable resolution. The crucial issue is raised because
            it is not a simple voting error or system security flaw that could be easily
            compromised, rather, it begs the question whether the common ground of
            impartiality, objectivity and public accountability is valued enough in Korea
            media ethics.
            As evidence shows and confirmed by SIDA, unusual vote
            change was spotted at various time periods. Numerous voters witnessed candidate
            Park Yoo chun’s votes lost or subtracted, and Jang Keun Suk’s votes skyrocket
            within seconds. Such unusual events lead to recurring complaints on Korea.com
            thereafter.
            


            7楼2012-04-15 01:23
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              We do appreciate the rightful attitude and prompt reply by SIDA Organizing
              Committee and wish problems will be fixed soon. Moreover, facts should be
              revealed to show whether any of the provided information crystallizes into
              something significant, and responsibility cannot be diverted by vogue language,
              because the SIDA are designed to increase both popularity and influence of Korea
              drama, and ensure audiences’ trust in their accuracy.
              We therefore, sincerely request the Organizing Committee to provide a thorough explanation regarding following issues:
              I. To publish the ballot after clearing out the invalid votes.
              We understand that SIDA have concerns over internal database protection. However, the ballot result is bind to be published online even if no fraud conduct occurs, in the event that unregistered country codes/IPs were explicitly diagnosed and confirmed by SIDA announcement, the justified final tally is more than necessary to be disclosed in the public eye to ensure the credibility and truthfulness of the Awards. Every single voter has the legitimate right to require the justified ballot published, and it is the SIDA’s liability to disclose the exact number of invalid votes. The reasonableness of this request is further supported by evidence listed in the Appendix of this letter, and the fact that more than 13,000 vote gap was filled within 10 hours during early morning on 13 August 2011 in the voting category of “Best Theme Song” and likewise, more than 20,000 vote gap within 8 hours on 14 August 2011 in the category of “Best Actor”. The disclosure of exact amount of invalid votes should include all voting categories covering: best actor, best drama series, best theme song and best actress, especially the first three
              categories in which the unusual vote surge was detected.
              


              8楼2012-04-15 01:24
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                II. To further investigate the screen errors and the issue whether actual votes
                were made to the intended candidate(s).
                The reason being that security vulnerability was reportedly proved possible through deliberate voting fraud changing the result by inserting hidden computer code that would add, subtract, or change votes. If it is mere screen error, why the misleading votes were removed from other candidate(s) to one specific candidate? The obviousness here is so suspicious that cannot be conflated or ignored. Reliance on the computer error and software malfunction for casting and recording of votes
                cannot account for the sudden rebound of vote for single person. We are keen to
                stress that there is moral outrage of some human being, instead of machine, that
                serve as the engine of lawlessness.
                III. To adopt effective means to prevent future tampering or fraud.
                To a lesser extent, the future system should introduce equipment or method such as requiring verification code input in/after the process of voting, etc.
                


                9楼2012-04-15 01:26
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                  As the major gateway of Korea culture and entertainment portal, SIDA targeted
                  both domestic and overseas audiences. Please be assured that every media has
                  only its credibility and reputation to rely on. It is such a shame that
                  injustice has brought repeated humiliation to the special event, thus failure to
                  properly deal with the errors and complaints can have far-reaching effects
                  because SIDA connect themselves with the values, attitudes, or experiences of
                  the mass audience. And the audience’s perception decides whether SIDA is
                  reliable and qualified to speak on a given topic.
                  As Korea drama fans, we are not merely touched by some cute actors’ nice dance
                  or beautiful songs, but increasingly influenced and illuminated by the glamour of tradition and culture of Korean. There is no denying the fact that, drama, music, or any form of art, and the transmission of the art, is a language beyond any cultural barrier, and can reach the common understanding of human nature. This is
                  how cultural communication works more powerfully than hard weapon. A highlighted
                  drama series can shed a ray of hope on the hearts of so many people, not to
                  mention the impact of the icons representing typical Korean image. The
                  popularity of Korea Drama in the last few years already proves the widespread
                  recognition of Korea cultural expansion all over the world. This is why we do
                  not want to see the credibility of the SIDA jeopardised by false operation of
                  minority’s conduct. This is why public announcement without productive or
                  effective action can be disastrous for SIDA---- if, due to this accident,
                  audience and fans are suspicious that the systems are just as prone to
                  malfunction and fraud is reluctantly resolved, the Organizing Committee will
                  have to spend years rebuilding the public’s confidence.
                  The scalability of the unusual vote change is shocking, which is why this issue
                  requires SIDA’s serious attention. Without appropriate explanation, the
                  complaints will be consequential to trigger further confidence unrest and taint
                  the Awards purpose. SIDA should not bear false sense of entitlement, and should
                  stand as a laudable media leader to maintain a consistent implementation of
                  ethical standards, which influence your position and interaction with the public
                  and within the industry. Everybody is watching. Please ensure that voters and
                  Korea drama fans can depend on the safe and reliable medium and organiser. We
                  are looking forward to your soonest reply.
                  Yours
                  Faithfully
                  Liusu_Qingchen
                  On behalf of
                  SIDA Overseas Fans
                  


                  10楼2012-04-15 01:29
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                    Appendix:
                    The core problem regarding how the ballot was altered or
                    manipulated can be indicated by screenshot evidence and claim chart, to name
                    just a few:
                    I. Suspicious dramatic vote surge and fluctuation for
                    candidate Jang Keun Suk (JKS) spotted. The defective voting can be exemplified
                    by one claim chart. (Source: http://tieba.baidu.com/p/1178412559)

                    


                    11楼2012-04-15 01:30
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                      II. The discrepancy displayed in the following screenshot may well
                      exemplify the incredibility of JKS’ vote. As every voter understands, to vote
                      for any intended candidate, one must first click “like” on Facebook webpage,
                      and then vote for the intended candidate. Considering the fact that many voters
                      were voting for multiple candidates at the same time period, the difference of
                      the “like” count must be more, or if not, at least equal to the vote gap of one
                      individual candidate’s. The highlighted discrepancy illustrates that ballots
                      were resulted from either computer error or human fraud. This is merely one
                      among numerous evidence discovered. (source: http://tieba.baidu.com/p/1175478449?pn=15

                      


                      12楼2012-04-15 01:31
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                        中文版:
                        SIDA组委会:
                        首先,我们对主办方就首尔电视节投票过程中对待不正当投票行为的投诉所采取的积极措施表示由衷感谢。我谨代表韩国电视剧的众多海外粉丝要求主办方就此事提供进一步合理的解释,因为这不单单是一个错误投票或系统故障就能轻易解决的问题,它涉及到韩国是否能够恪守大众认可的公正、客观的媒体道德和公信力。
                        经由多方证据显示以及主办方确认,此次电视节投票活动多次发现异常投票状况。网上众多投票人见证了短短时间内候选人朴有天失票、错票和张根锡的票数飞涨的现象。这些异常现象由此引发了大量的网上投诉。
                        我们非常感谢主办方采取的正确态度和及时回复,并且希望问题可以早日解决。更重要的是,我们希望主办方可以披露事实,说明投诉所提供的信息证据是否合理可信。主办方的责任不能被含糊其词的公告转移,因为首尔电视节大奖投票设立的目的,就是确保韩国电视的大众导向和影响,并提升观众对于该奖项真实性的认可和信任。
                        


                        13楼2012-04-15 01:32
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                          因此我们真诚要求主办方就以下事宜提供详尽解释:
                          第一. 公布清票后的投票结果。
                          我们理解主办方就保护投票内部数据的考量。但是,即使没有不公平的投票发生,主办方也将在网上公示最终投票结果。而现在主办方已经进行调查并且在公告中明确表态,投票中发现未经注册的国家区域码和IP,那么清票后的结果更应该公示于众,以确保奖项的真实性和公信力。每一位投票者都有要求主办方公示结果的法定权利,而披露无效投票票数也是主办方不可推卸的义务。这个要求的合理性可以由此信后附的证据支持;更进一步的事实是2011年8月13日凌晨10小时内最佳主题曲投票中约13,000票的差距被赶超,2011年8月14日凌晨8小时内最佳男主投票中约20,000票的差距被赶超。无效票数的披露应当包括最佳男主、最佳电视剧、最佳主题曲和最佳女主角,尤其是出现不正常票数异动的前三项投票。
                          第二.进一步调查关于屏幕显示错误和投票是否实际计入投票人选择的候选人票数中的问题。
                          提此要求的原因是计算机系统的安全隐患问题可能来源于人为操纵以改变最终投票结果,通过安装计算机程式可以实现加票、减票和导票。如果仅仅是屏幕显示错误,为什么所有错误导向的投票都从其他候选人添加到同一候选人身上?这些异常现象过于明显过于可疑,不应含糊混淆或随意忽略。使用计算机投票计票诚然会出现系统或软件故障,但无法解释仅仅单个人的票数激涨。我们更加想要强调的是,这个行为的非法性是出于投票人的道德诚信而无视法律,但不是计票机器的问题。
                          第三.采取有效措施防止将来可能出现的窜改和欺诈投票现象。
                          至少,在未来投票过程中或过程后应该引入验证码输入的方式或方法,等等。
                          


                          14楼2012-04-15 01:34
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                            作为韩国文化娱乐的门户,首尔电视节大奖的目标市场是广大韩国国内和国际观众。公信和名誉是媒体奖项最可依赖的保障。我们很遗憾不正当的投票行为已经影响了这个评奖的声誉,因此如果不能适当处理投诉和失误会带来更加深远的影响。因为首尔电视节大奖的价值取向和倚仗主要来源于观众的体验和认可态度,而观众对主办方的理解和看法决定了这个媒介是否有可靠性和话语权。
                            作为韩剧粉丝,我们不仅仅是被某些演员的表现和歌曲打动,更加被剧中传达的韩国文化传统影响和启发。不可否认,戏剧和音乐,以及任何形式的艺术,和艺术的传播,都可以跨越语言文化障碍,达成人类文化的共同体验,这也是为什么文化传播的力量大于武力的原因。一个好的戏剧可以为众多观众开启心扉,更不要说韩流明星对于韩国形象带来的正面影响。这从过去几年来韩剧在世界范围内广泛传播获得越来越多的认可可见一斑。这也就是为什么我们不希望看到首尔电视节大奖的公信力被少数人的不正当行为破坏;是为什么仅仅靠公告而不采取有效措施会为大奖带来及其有害的影响。――――如果由于此次事件,观众和粉丝认为大奖的投票系统容易故障,而且突发的变更投票和诈票问题无法获得有效解决,主办方将需要花费相当长的时间重建公信力。
                            此次刷票的规模惊人,也是应该引起主办方注意的另一原因。没有合理解释,投诉会导致信任危机并进而有负举办大奖的初衷。主办方不应被不当的外部压力左右,而应该以值得信任的媒体形象站稳立场,坚持执行媒体道德标准,这个恪守的一贯性会影响首尔电视大奖在业界的受认可度和同大众的互动。每个人都在注视着你们的行动,请给所有投票人和韩剧粉丝提供一个可以信赖的媒介和活动组织。我们期待主办方的早日答复。
                            流苏_倾城
                            代表首尔电视节大奖海外饭


                            15楼2012-04-15 01:35
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                              附录:
                              以下统计图表和截屏可以证明问题的焦点,即票数的变更和错投。仅举几例:
                              一.候选人JKS
                              的选票波动和票数骤增变化可疑。以下趋势图可例证不正当投票。 (图表来源: http://tieba.baidu.com/p/1178412559)
                              (图略)
                              二.以下截屏显示候选人JKS票数不可靠性。
                              众所周知,投票者需要在facebook首页上选择“喜爱这个网站”才能参与投票。考虑到同时有众多投票人向多头候选人竞投,在同样时间段内,点击“喜爱这个网站”的数据差额应该大于,或者至少等于一位候选人同时段的选票数差额。然而下图截屏显示不符,由此证明这个投票结果或者出于计算机系统错误或者由于人为操作诈票。这个证据只是我们发现的众多证据中的一条而已。
                              (图表来源: http://tieba.baidu.com/p/1175478449?pn=15)
                              (图略)
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                              16楼2012-04-15 01:36
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