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吴黑说吴清源是中国人吹出来的,这种说法十分可笑

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吴黑们是不是文化水平都不高,看不懂外语啊?
就这样还自称“棋史学者”?
如果说是学者,你发表的论文在哪?
是不是以为在贴吧和知乎发了几个帖子,就成“学者”了?


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    IP属地:美国2楼2024-04-13 11:04
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      Sensei's Library知不知道?
      这是西方最知名的围棋数据库
      它对吴清源的评价是one of the strongest players of the 20th Century and, by many, one of the strongest players of all time
      He participated in a large number of sponsored challenge matches with other top players of the day and dominated most of them.
      20世纪最强的棋手之一,被很多人认为是史上最强的棋手之一
      “统治”了大多数同时代的顶尖棋手


      IP属地:美国3楼2024-04-13 11:10
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        IP属地:美国4楼2024-04-13 11:22
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          另一个英文围棋知识库的说法
          Go Seigen convincingly demonstrated an overwhelming dominance over his contemporaries.
          吴清源令人信服地展示了对同时代人的压倒性统治力。


          IP属地:美国5楼2024-04-13 11:24
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            韩国围棋科普网站simplebaduk对吴清源的评价:
            The Era Defining Genius
            定义时代的天才


            IP属地:美国6楼2024-04-13 11:29
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              IP属地:美国7楼2024-04-13 11:29
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                In the world of Go, few names shine brighter than Go Seigen. Considered by many to be the greatest player of the 20th century, Go Seigen pushed the boundaries of the ancient game to new heights.
                A Prodigy from China
                Born Wu Qingyuan in 1914 in China, Go first picked up Go at age 9, a late start for a future master. Yet his talent was undeniable. By 12, Go was defeating top Japanese opponents, earning him an invitation to pursue a professional career in Japan.
                Pioneering a Go Revolution in Japan
                Arriving in 1928, Go immediately earned a 3-dan rank. Despite frail health, he pioneered revolutionary fuseki openings alongside his friend Kitani Minoru, breaking from tradition. This “Shin Fuseki” movement brought Go fame.
                Dominating the Go World
                Throughout the 1930s and 40s, Go dominated the Go world, defeating all rivals in legendary jubango matches. Facing top players like Kitani and Fujisawa Hosai, Go won game after game, forcing opponents into handicaps. Out of 11 jubango matches, Go lost only one.
                Taking on the Legendary Honinbo Shusai
                Go's brilliance culminated in a 1933 match against Honinbo Shusai Meijin, the long-time champion. Despite controversies over Shusai’s adjournment tactics, Go awed Japan with his bold fuseki.


                IP属地:美国8楼2024-04-13 11:33
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                  我就有点疑问,吴自认是中国人还是日本人?当年为什么要去慰问日军呢。


                  IP属地:江苏来自Android客户端9楼2024-04-13 11:33
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                    机器翻译:
                    在围棋的世界里,很少有名字比吴清源更闪耀。吴清源 被许多人认为是 20 世纪最伟大的棋手,他将古代游戏的界限推向了新的高度。
                    来自中国的神童
                    1914年出生于中国吴清源,9岁时开始学习围棋,这对未来的大师来说是一个较晚的起步。然而,他的才华是不可否认的。12岁时,围棋击败了日本的顶级对手,为他赢得了在日本从事职业生涯的邀请。
                    在日本开创围棋革命
                    1928年,围棋一到这里,就立即获得了三段的等级。尽管身体虚弱,但他与他的朋友 Kitani Minoru 一起开创了新布局革命,打破了传统。
                    称霸围棋世界
                    在整个 1930 年代和 40 年代,围棋统治了围棋世界,在传统的十番棋 比赛中击败了所有对手。


                    IP属地:美国10楼2024-04-13 11:35
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                      “吴清源是中国人吹出来的"这种说法弄反了
                      应该说,吴清源基本上只有在中国才有一堆人黑,坚持不懈的黑
                      在外网基本上一边倒的是被极为尊重的大师
                      在外网也基本没人认为,吴清源的品格有任何问题


                      IP属地:美国11楼2024-04-13 11:39
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                        IP属地:美国12楼2024-04-13 11:43
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                          楼上是美国人Matthew Chalfant评选出的史上最强十大棋手
                          吴清源被他评为史上最强
                          2. 黄龙士
                          3. 道策
                          4. 秀策
                          5. 范西屏
                          6. 丈和
                          7. 赵治勋
                          8. 李昌镐
                          9. 李世石
                          10. 曹薰铉


                          IP属地:美国13楼2024-04-13 11:54
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                            IP属地:美国14楼2024-04-13 11:59
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                              楼上是European Go Federation(欧洲围棋联盟,欧洲各国的围棋联赛和职业比赛就是它组织的)官网对吴清源的评价
                              和其它外文网站的评价差不多
                              认为吴清源convincingly demonstrated a dominance over the other Japanese professionals. 统治了其他日本职业棋手
                              还说both he and Kitani are recognized as the fathers of modern Go. 同木谷实一起被认为是现代围棋之父


                              IP属地:美国15楼2024-04-13 12:04
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