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IP属地:广西1楼2018-07-14 11:49回复
    解释下这个帖子的前因
    想来各位都知道了,本区有一位叫做Natefree的大神,日常画风是这样的

    楼主是一个普通的英吧众,和大神们是不能够比的,用Nata大神的话说

    过去一年多,虽然觉得Nate大神画风清奇,但是英文中不是有句话么a cat can loot at a king,所以除了它猥琐Zeremine菇凉时,我一般很少评论他。


    IP属地:广西2楼2018-07-14 11:57
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      最近不知道为什么,楼主入了Nate大神的法眼,进了丫的YY名单。
      被大神看上,当然是很难得的事情,大概会有人欢呼雀跃吧【真有这种货么,要去围观下】
      但是楼主的心情是忧郁的
      毕竟,同广大英吧众一样,楼主的目的是希望通过自己的努力取得语言上的进步。
      而Nate大神,不知道出于什么原因【当然是因为没能力】,在本吧发帖的内容,可以说是老奶奶的裹脚布天天用,就是没怎么见到能客观展示语言能力的,不可避免的,大神在楼主心中的地位就不那么高了【要么认知障碍,要么补药闭联】


      IP属地:广西3楼2018-07-14 12:04
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        学艺不精,被人批评,那自然是应该谦虚受教,努力改进的。
        但是,Nate大神这么久以来,就没有拿出什么让楼主信服的证据
        本着反复求证的心态【抽一遍爽,抽两遍加倍爽】,楼主向大神询问了若干次
        不料【完全在意料中】大神立刻拿出了常用的一根裹脚布,进入了复读机状态






        IP属地:广西5楼2018-07-14 12:09
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          这下楼主就郁闷了
          你说脚上踩了口香糖,还要抖三下呢
          被Nate大神黏上,甩都甩不掉,出于无奈之下,只好把一些不上台面的东西,单独开个帖子,博各位吃瓜群众一笑了


          IP属地:广西6楼2018-07-14 12:13
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            Nate的帖子,充满了YY,用碰毛哨响球进的话说,就是

            但是,碰毛哨响球进同学的话,提醒了我。
            虽然,Nate大神始终在自己的想象中徜徉,我们可以尝试的拉他进入客观世界,通过客观方法对比和观察一下Nate大神的实力。
            如果Nate大神展现出了睥睨四方的实力,相信大家会对大神表示出应有的尊敬。
            如果大神继续和孙子一样躲在那几根裹脚布后面,楼主借此嘲讽一番,也算出了上NateYY榜的一口气。


            IP属地:广西12楼2018-07-14 12:25
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              1. Nate大神客观展示自己实力的第一个机会 - 文字回复
              这是5月底,我为你发的帖子。
              出于善意,我3天后删除了帖子。三天之内,Nate大神躲得跟孙子一样。
              现在,我继续把这个帖子放在这里,Nate大神,用你的语言能力来批驳我吧。
              【并不期待你这个**回复,猜都猜得到,你除了发那几根裹脚布,就是跑题】


              IP属地:广西14楼2018-07-14 12:38
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                2. Nate大神展示自己实力的第二个机会 - 第三方认证
                好教各位吃瓜群众知晓,这个帖子并没有炫耀的意思。C2只是一个测试成绩,C2之间差异要远大于C2和A1之间的差异。楼主只是C2中的渣渣,英吧牛人众多,这个分数就是真拿出来炫耀,也只有博人们一笑的效果。
                从Nate大神的言语间可以看出,大神的实力自然不是我这种渣渣可以比的。参加第三方语言能力测试,想必结果也是极好的。


                IP属地:广西18楼2018-07-14 12:46
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                  3. Nate大神展示自己实力的第三个机会 - 讨论
                  https://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts
                  上面是BBC播客节目的下载地址。
                  Nate大神可以随便选择一个节目,听完之后,与楼主讨论下。
                  讲实话,BBC节目涉猎广泛,许多话题楼主也不懂。但这不是展示语言基本功么,虽然进行不了专业领域有深度的对话,但是临时阅读,参与讨论的过程中,Nate大神的语言能力,不就这么展示出来了么?


                  IP属地:广西19楼2018-07-14 12:50
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                    【Nate,你内心也知道自己就是个只会YY的装孙子货的】
                    【楼主也知道,这点上咱们可以达成共识】
                    【并不觉得你会回复】
                    【只是在你脸上抽三下,看你继续作孙子出口气而已】


                    IP属地:广西22楼2018-07-14 12:53
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                      以前主要是烦他天天重复那几句,就是不露两手
                      现在大师已经漏了



                      IP属地:广西来自Android客户端67楼2019-07-18 21:19
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                        不想主动顶这个贴子,有两个主要原因。
                        1. 我也不知道为啥就莫名成了小吧。但是,既然是了,顶这个变成小吧之前很久发的老贴,看起来就像是管理方与用户的冲突了。
                        2. Nate翻来覆去只有那几句话。
                        不过公子同学顶了,我就借此机会把后来的小故事补在这里吧。
                        在名为“【原创】小学生不应该读Agatha的书?”的贴子中,Nate终于发了一段英文。
                        虽然内容就是他那几句话的英文版,但是,我们有机会可以一见在言语上看不起留学生和英专的他,本身是什么样的程度。
                        下面是他的文字。
                        Should primary school students read Agatha Christie's books?
                        The lexile measures of Harry Potter series are higher than those of Agatha Christie series. The beginners tend to prefer Agatha Christie series over Harry Potter series.
                        A student of English major loves reading Agatha Christie's books.But he refused to tell me exactly how many books he had read. He might have read less than 10 of them.He called himself a real fan of Agatha Christie.
                        When he knew a foreign primary school student had read about 100 of these books, he deleted all of the comments regarding the student in question like crazy(pun intended).
                        Other irrelevant replies were wiped out of existence in a timely manner as well.
                        I came up with several reasons why he was being a jerk.
                        1 protect the physical and mental health of the children. keep them away from violence and sex. We appreciate his kind gesture in making the world a better place.
                        2 reduce homework. Primary school students should not read more than 8 million words in the extracurricular books. It is a hard job even for English major students.
                        The kids would like to extend their thanks to him.
                        3 He just hates to see the kid read faster and better understand the text than he.
                        4 The kid is a threat to him and makes him less of a fan of Agatha Christie.
                        5 The kid can not understand Agatha Christie's books very well and will damage the image of the author.
                        6 He was born to be proud and reluctant to read the books that the kid read. Though he doesn't have any other choice.


                        IP属地:广西78楼2021-04-02 18:03
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                          Finally. After year's of waiting, we can have a look at your writing.
                          @ 乾元_用九 has pointed out several of your mistakes. He's a busy man. You should be grateful that he took some of his valuable time to help you improve. I am probably wrong here, but I think he was being too polite in that he only mentioned a small fraction of the writing problems.
                          Before I move any further, there are two things I'd like to mention first.
                          1. I GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE. What you've written in thread #5 is better than most homework I've received. Some of my students are going to study in the UK next year. You're being compared to some of the most talented kids I've ever met. I'm paying you a compliment. Please bear this in mind.
                          What you've written here is especially remarkable, considering that you were unable to produce ANY proof that you could write complete sentences, just a few years ago. I'd call it a great achievement.
                          2. I'm not claiming everything I am about to write is correct, or the only way of looking at things. If any member has different opinions, I'd love to discuss with them, that is, when I’m lucky enough to have another half-day break. I may have spent more years on this language. But this doesn't change the fact that I'm a learner, too. I’m bound to make tons of mistakes and by telling me my mistakes, you’re helping me improve.
                          Nate, the following words are for you. YOU HAVE A TRACK RECORD OF BEING EVASIVE AND REPEATING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER LIKE A TODDLER. You do it here and I will take it as "Sorry, your words are too difficult to understand and I chose to give them a miss."
                          Right. Let's start.
                          1. "The beginners tend to prefer Agatha Christie series over Harry Potter series."
                          1.1
                          "Agatha Christie series"? What do you mean by this?
                          LDOCE says series means "several books, articles, etc that deal with the same subject or tell stories about the same characters." Are you suggesting that you're referring to a series of books centering on a character called Agatha Christie?
                          Lexico.com says series means "A set of books, periodicals, or other documents published in a common format or under a common title". Perhaps you're alluding to a number of different books which happen to share the same title that is Agatha Christie?
                          You've said on many occasions that you don't use dictionaries. As has been shown, that is not a very good idea. Stick to "Agatha Christie's books".
                          1.2
                          "Harry Potter series"
                          @ 乾元_用九 said " you often use the definite article where it is not needed". It seems you often omit the definite article where it is needed. Are there any other Harry Potter series that I'm not aware of?
                          2. "When he knew a foreign primary school student had read a bout 100 of these books, he deleted all of the comments regarding the student in question like crazy."
                          2.1
                          What is a foreign primary school student?
                          LDOCE says foreign means "from or relating to a country that is not your own". Are you suggesting that a random primary school student from any country that is not China "had read about 100 of these books"? That does sound plausible, doesn't it?
                          For people who have known you for a while, your intended meaning is clear. You like talking about how many books certain children from English speaking countries are expected to have read, in a way that makes people feel you're suggesting that you're in actual fact on par with them, and the numbers you quote, more often than not, are mainly intended to make your claims sound convincing.
                          Bear in mind that a lot, if not most, of your readers know little about you. Make your meaning clear. Do it for them.
                          2.2
                          What do you mean by "these books"? These is used to indicate something just mentioned. What books have you just mentioned? You title suggests you're referring to Agatha Christie's books here. Agatha Christie wrote, according to The Sun, 75 novels, 28 collections and 16 plays. All together that's about 120 books. It's possible that a small group of enthusiasts might have gone through the majority of these books. However, when you write an essay, you're expect to use facts to SUPPORT your argument. You'd have to tell your readers why, merely because a few enthusiastic children have done something, other children should follow suite.
                          2.3
                          "Like crazy."
                          Have you noticed that this phrase has a rather informal register. Another such word is "jerk". This is not in line with the rest of your writing, especially considering you've, on several occasions, used rather formal structures. One such example is "The kids would like to extend their thanks to him."
                          Unless you're intentionally trying to amuse your readers, sticking to one register is a better option. Plus, you're trying to make a point about language learning here. Your readers expect to hear good arguments. Making such attempts could undermine your efforts, and, to say the least, lead to your readers questioning your competency, as you've failed to demonstrate that you can observe the subtle differences between various registers.
                          3. "protect the physical and mental health of the child. keep them away from violence and sex."
                          3.1
                          Emsr2d2 is one of my favourite teachers from UE. She has a famous quote: "Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect."
                          I don't think you don't know this. This rule is, after all, as another famous detective would say, "Elementary, my dear Watson". In addition, in reason #6 you've used more than one sentence and, correct capitalisation. You're not consistently wrong, or correct, as in this case. This shows you've not reached a level where you can notice these small errors with ease.
                          You tend to look down on English majors, while, most English majors, as far as I know, can avoid making such basic mistakes, after four years of whatever training they're given. What does this say about you?
                          3.2
                          "keep them away from violence and sex"
                          If you were not against the idea of using a dictionary, you might have noticed "keep away from" doesn't really fit here.
                          Thefreedictionary.com says the phrase means "To cause someone or something to keep a physical distance from someone or something else. In this usage, a noun or pronoun can be used between "keep" and "away."" It seems you're suggesting that by taking Agatha Christie's books away from Children, you can ensure they won't become victims of certain physical action. How does this work? Do your books often force you to have intercourse with them? Do "Harry Potter series" look for opportunities to jump up and bite you?
                          Perhaps what you really meant to say is something on the lines of "limit their exposure to violent content".
                          4. "We appreciate his kind gesture in making the world a better place."
                          4.1
                          "We appreciate".
                          What's this? The royal we? His Imperial Royal Highness The Prince of Non-existent Land Nate Noffink?
                          A pronoun is used to replace a noun that's been previously mentioned. Having read thus far, I'm not aware of anyone other than you who might hold such an opinion. If you have other people in your mind, you should list them explicitly beforehand.
                          4.2
                          "his kind gesture"
                          Lexico.com lists three definitions and in all three senses gesture is used as a countable noun. LDOCE clearly states that when the word is used to mean "something that you say or do, often something small, to show how you feel about someone or something", it is countable.
                          As far as I know, you've exchanged remarks on many occasions. Why did you consider them as a single event? I'm at a loss.
                          4.3
                          "in making the world a better place"
                          I'm confused. Are you on his side now? Do you believe by doing so someone was making the world a better place? I have a feeling that you actually intended to say "in TRYING TO make the world a better place".


                          IP属地:广西79楼2021-04-02 18:06
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                            5. "reduce homework. Primary school students should not read more than 8 million words in the extracurricular books."
                            What are "extracurricular books"?
                            Surely you, our genius friend who doesn't need dictionaries, are aware that extracurricular means "(of an activity at a school or college) pursued in addition to the normal course of study." If, for some mysterious reason that no one can account for, you happen to be looking at the example sentences listed under definition 1 at lexico.com, you will find the adjective is invariably followed by "activity" or "activities". Two requirements have to be met for a book to qulify as "extracurricular". It cannot be part of the national education plan, while at the same time it must have some educational value. You may argue Agatha Christie's books have some level of educational value. I will give you that. But you will most certainly have a very difficult time trying to convince parents that Agatha Christie's books have enough of such value to be part of a educational plan designed for a native English speaker who's receiving their primary education.
                            6. "The kid is a threat to him and makes him less of a fan of Agatha Christie." "The kid can not understand Agatha Christie's books very well and will damage the image of the author."
                            I've completely failed to see how these two arguments work.
                            Is there some sort of a fan club competition going on? Or, is Fan of Agatha Christie a title that is only given to a limited number of people, and you'd have to fight to keep it? What are the standards? How far is the said English major behind that "foreign primary school student"?
                            Agatha Christie passed away a long time ago. How's it possible that her image depends on whether a random child can understand her books well or not?
                            You said you "came up with several reasons" to account for one mystery. I'm afraid in trying to do so you've created more mysteries and solved none. Unless you think and write logically, your readers will be confused from time to time.
                            7. "He was born to be proud and reluctant to read the books that the kid read."
                            7.1
                            "He was born to be proud."
                            Did you know him when he was a young child? Did he tell you so? If the answers are no, I cannot see how you can come up with this conclusion in a reasonable fashion. Unless, of course, you don't know the differences between guessing and sound reasoning.
                            7.2
                            "... reluctant to read the books that the kid read."
                            He doesn't seem reluctant at all. He likes Agatha Christie's books, reads them and passionately talks about them with many forum members. He just doesn't want to discuss it with you, because, well, apparently a discussion would be extremely boring when all one party does is constant repetition of what's been repeated for ages. The title of this thread says it all. "[Original] Should primary school students read Agatha Christie's books?"
                            Original means "existing first, from the beginning, or before other people or things" or "completely new and not copied or derived from something else".
                            You posted two photos, and, by definition, there is no way these photos came into being before the creation of that web page.
                            You put down two sentences. These two sentences are part of a long line of similar utterances. They are not new and they were copied from your earlier posts.
                            This shows you don't understand the meaning of what could be said as one of the most common English words.
                            "He was born to be proud." alone is a very nice-sounding sentence. I won't be surprised, if one or more books use it as part of their title. That said, a sentence, however nice it may sound, must fit the context. It is a giant step forward when starter learners can produce generally faux pas-free sentences. They should be proud of themselves. That's no mean feat. But you have to understand that when writing things, we don't simply throw sentences around. They should be put together in a logical order, or as many would say, should make sense. This is an area into which you will have to invest heavily.


                            IP属地:广西80楼2021-04-02 18:06
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                              因为太长,分成了三次发的。
                              懒得翻译成中文了,会关注这个小贴子的朋友们,看懂上面的内容自然是没有问题的。
                              之所以写这些,大概更多是出于前老师的本能反应。
                              水平有限,有错误还望大家不吝指出。
                              补一张图记录时间。

                              在写的时候,我已经估计到他的反应了。


                              IP属地:广西82楼2021-04-02 18:16
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